Robots Coming Discussion with RAR

Hello.
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I've not really addressed the final question, as that would
seem to require a matrix of technological solutions for
a collection of industrial and gov't segments to be useful
to prepare. It can be discussed and address later this summer.
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Comments include:
2009/06/07 -
projection for three separate technologies related to PCs
==> each will have 10 years of doubled capability from 2009 to 2019
==> 1024 estimated increase in capabilities
Units considered for CPUs, Disk memory, RAM
Note: new technologies have inherent problems in their definition and
move from a development environment to a production environment.

The perfection of new technologies is continuously being scheduled as part of the ongoing process at
Intel and other semiconductor firms.  At any given point in time, the newest technology is being
developed in the R&D laboratories and the debugged technology is in production.  When 90 nanometer
technology is in production, 65 nanometer technology is being perfected as a joint effort of R&D and
manufacturing.  This is known as “technology transfer” and “releasing engineering design to
production”.  Many years have been spent perfecting this orderly transition and they actually use Project
Planners to assist the process.  Have you heard of Project Planning?  Simultaneously the 45 nanometer
technology is being experimented with on the lab bench.  When 65 nanometer technology is in
production, 45 nanometer technology is being perfected in R&D.  Project planners carefully monitor the
steps that take the designed product into practical production.

Now that 45 nanometer technology is in production, R&D is working on 32 and 22 nanometer
technology.  If you follow the articles on this technology, it becomes easier to believe that it is going to
happen.  Recent articles refer to using extremely short wave ultra-violet light to expose semiconductors
with these smaller dimensions.  Here is an article on the use of Extreme UltraViolet (EUV) light to expose
photo resist on forthcoming semiconductor wafers:
Martin van den Brink, executive vice president for products and technology said "EUV is the cost
effective successor of 193-nm lithography below 20-nm." and that ASML believes it can extend EUV
down to sub-5nm.
The company took delivery of a new power source in May and is "ready to integrate a system" van den
Brink said.  This will be the first example of ASML's NXE platform of EUV lithography machines; the
NXE3100 capable of between 60 and 100 wafers per hour throughput. This will have a numerical
aperture of 0.25 and should be capable of 28-nm resolution, the same as is being achieved on the EUV
Advanced Development Tool installed in IMEC, but at a commercial throughput.

What this means is that it appears that Extreme UV light can be used to fabricate chips configured with 5
nanometer line widths.  5 nanometers is obviously one-ninth of the 45 nanometers being used in today’s
Nehalem CPUs.  Let me remind you that the 8 processor Nehalem uses 2 billion transistors.  The
Japanese and some Americans have been insisting that X-ray technology would be needed by now.
Apparently they were wrong.  Consider that a reduction of 10 in one dimension is a reduction of 1000 in
three dimensions.  This means that EUV technology can be projected that will carry Moore’s Law to
2019, at which point the density of semiconductors will be such that a supercomputer will have the
computational power of a human brain.  That assumes a three dimensional configuration with 5
nanometer technology.  The third dimension may create a power dissipation unless the low power Adam
processor configurations are used.  That is a conservative estimate and it is hard to believe that so
much computing power will be needed to be equivalent to the human brain.  A human is about 300 watts
and 25% of that energy is used to power the three-pound brain.  Current CPUs are about 135 watts and
it is easier and cheaper to supply 135 watts to a computer CPU than feed a human steaks, baked potato
and wine to power its 75 watt computer.

The reason that I believe that computers will gain human level intelligence before 2019 is because the
semiconductor components are not shipped unless they perform ‘perfectly’.  Meanwhile the human brain
only functions because of massive redundancy.  We can surmise this because the human brain needs
to function even if it loses millions of brain cells.  It has been reported recently that 90% of human brain
strokes go undetected.  This indicates massive redundancy is being used.  Memory in the human brain
is thought to be holographic in nature.  If this is true, we only need an improvement of 100x to equal the
human brain.  This will occur with 5 nanometer technology in two dimensions in ten years.  Nevertheless,
three dimensional chips are still being planned.    

If that isn’t enough to concern you, start reading up on Quantum Computers.  The time for a quantum
computer to solve problems will be proportional to the square root of the number of Qbits available. That
can be a very large speedup, reducing some problems from years to seconds.  http://en.wikipedia.
org/wiki/Quantum_computers

Additionally, heat dissipation factors, memory mgt. factors, and
other techniques necessary to coordinate all of this computing and
processing power may inflict major throughput burdens on the team.

Let us check the facts.  Your computer is six years old and it overheats.  Your assumption is that newer
more powerful computers must have even more thermal problems.  This seems obvious because you
live in Detroit.  If one increased a 100 horsepower engine to 1000 horsepower, we would expect it to
consume 10 times the gasoline and radiate 10 times the heat.

Semiconductor Engineering work under different laws:  As one shrinks a chip, each transistor becomes
smaller.  Smaller transistors consume less power and operate at higher frequencies.  The new Adam
CPU from Intel consumes only one watt.  John H. and Kyle have purchased these new laptop units using
the Adam processors and they sit for hours at our meetings without needing to plug in their laptops.
Their units run cool.  John was saying that his cost only $325.  Computers with far less power used to
cost $3000.  Such is the difference between Cars and Computers.  Come on over and visit and you will
be exposed to modern technology and not be as concerned with “heat dissipation factors”.  I suspect
your concern is more with the older technology such as the unit you own.  

Simultaneously, Intel is delivering Nahelem chips whose power dissipation is 135 Watts.  These suckers
would heat up your laptop and drain your battery.  They are designed for desktop units, however.  You
can always go to the Intel site and listen to the last few years of video where this technology was
explained so that we may all be informed.  Registration for this year’s Intel Developer’s Forum opens on
June 17, 2009.  Perhaps you would like to attend. http://www.intel.com/idf/


Note: Society may have to install administrative barriers to access of
deleterious data sources.
Perhaps you mean, “Robot Society will have to install administrative….

Reason: Future societies may have to deal with major problems
for the available bandwidth of regular system access, as well as for
possible resources for sabotage techniques and approaches.

Are you concerned with Colossus, the Forbin Project (1970 movie) or the Unabomber?  Do you wish to
publish your proposal in the newspapers?  The “Unabomber received extensive attention in the news
media for his extreme statements of opposition to science, industry, and technology.”

When you state “Future societies” do you refer to post-human societies consisting of robots with IQs far
exceeding those of humans?  If so, how can we mere mortal proto-intelligent humans deign to advise
such super-intelligence as to how to organize their society?  You seem to be thinking with a 20th century
mind in the 21st century.

Note: Software techniques to utilize the ever-newer technologies will
trail the capabilities for several reasons. Fewer people will have the
requisite knowledge to use the earlier technologies, much less the
expanded techniques available from the newer applications.

The proposal is to create human-like brains which are like two-year-old brains.  These brains will be
taught just like two-year-old brains are taught today, only much faster.  Once a robot is taught how to
act like a human programmer, he will not only be capable with the logic, but also he will have a memory
which far exceeds that of any human.  Remember that new computers already have 2 terabyte disc
drives and that in ten years this capacity will be multiplied by 1000.  Please name one person who can
memorize 1 terabyte of information in the form of “Where did I put that subroutine” and “What did I
decide to name that function which I wrote to perform 128 bit multiplication?”  Please remember that
once a computer can think, it will instantly be superior to a human because of its extensive and reliable
memory.

Now picture the current problem that Microsoft has of writing Windows 7.  The slowdown is, as you point
out above, due to the slow user interface due to the slow communications abilities of humans.  As you
pointed out, the speed of this human interface is not doubling each year and yet the need for software is
doubling each year.  This is manifested in an apparent slowdown of software development.  What is
needed is robot hardware that emulates the human brain and which can communicate at terabyte rates
with other robots.  Just picture the power of ten human programmers which could communicate with
each other at terabyte rates.  Wow, what a team.  The software cycle is about to undergo significant
acceleration once the human brain is successfully simulated and taught computer programming.

An Air France airplane goes down into the Atlantic ocean.  Today this news is accompanied by the
comment that the Airplane’s Autopilot was turned off.  Note that it is now very significant when the robot
is told not to make decisions.  This indicates that we have entered a new era where humans expect
robots to be in charge of certain important functions such as flying an airplane.  Oh, sure, we need
human pilots.  But only if they have received thousands of hours of training by robotic “flight simulators.”

As I pointed out in another message, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nd5WGLWNllA the new VW
manufacturing plant is quite robotic.  

Here is an important question to ask yourself, “Did GM go bankrupt because the robots were too
expensive or because the human union workers were too greedy?”  Or even, “Did GM go bankrupt
because of the high cost of maintaining robotic equipment and the cost of caring for robots after they
were ‘retired’ or the high cost of maintaining human health and humans in retirement?”



In time
the applications' user guides will assist users to become aware of
the specific controls for desired features and images.
Projection: The user interface controls won't continue doubling at a
    rate of 2x per year as has been forecast for the hardware.

You have an excellent point.  The human user interface speed is becoming a very significant barrier to
progress and having humans “in the loop” will receive more and more attention. To illustrate your point,
let us consider driving a car.  While the human brain is processing information, one or two seconds can
easily pass by.  Let us say that a car pulls out in front of a woman driver unexpectedly.  After the visual
information is processed by her human brain the human woman has to move her foot from the floor,
move it over to the brake pedal and slam on the brakes.  Given the fact that human response time is not
doubling at the rate that robotics are doubling (as you point out), it is only a matter of time before that
robot has a reaction time less than 100 miliseconds and the human continues to have a multi-second
reaction time. Let us say that in 2019, a computer driven car is shown to interact with the controls much
faster than a human can.  This could argue against continuing to allow humans to drive cars.  If a human
has ever been caught driving under the influence of alcohol, should she have to purchase a robot
driven car?  I say yes.  43,000 humans die each year due mostly to human drinking and error.  Are
humans tested before getting a driver’s license?  Yes.  Does their testing include reacting properly to
tires blowing out?  No.  If I was buying a new car which could drive itself, would I pay an extra $100 to
have it programmed so that it properly responds to a tire blowing out?  Absolutely yes.  Will the National
safety standards mandate that self-driving cars be programmed to respond properly to blown out tires?  
I believe that you will find it to be the case.  Rather than emphasizing how well a car does when it
crashes, the new criterion will be how well the car responds and avoids crashing.  New advertisements
for Volvo cars which automatically brake themselves shows that such robot equipment is already in
development.  How much better will a robot steer an automobile when there is a skid on ice compared to
a human who is text messaging her girlfriend?

Would you prefer to be on those trains we hear about that crash because the conductor was text
messaging?  How about the drunken captain commanding the Exxon Valdiz?  

So, yes, I must agree that the lack of human interface speed improvement is looming as a big problem
as we move forward.  Human laziness, drunkenness and ease of distraction is also a problem.  At least
one airline pilot per month is caught drinking alcohol.  Such incidents argue for more and better robots
to take charge of important functions.

Even beyond these considerations please picture two robots communicating at gigahertz rates and the
poor dumb humans  sitting there not being able to keep up with what is being discussed.  This appears
to be a problem for the humans.  Unless humans are upgraded to creatures (currently being called H+
by Transhumanists http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=8199528562 ) which can communicate at
these higher speeds, it doesn’t look promising for any unaltered humans at all.  In any case, unmodified
humans will either be able to afford the upgrades (currently such upgrades consist of academic degrees
from institutions of higher learning.  Your own upgrades are noted when you list the degrees you have
earned through hard work. Another upgrade would be Lasik surgery and perhaps heart pacemakers,
etc.  Please check out my site at: http://donbot.com/Manbot/Man000IndexManBot.html to review the
various parts of the human body which may be replaced with robotic parts.)  Poor people often receive
grants from the governments so that they can participate in college learning experiences.  Will society
offer H+ upgrades to ‘everybody’ so that ‘everybody’ can participate in the new era?  At only $100,000
per upgrade the cost to the Obama Administration would only be $30 Trillion for 300 million US citizens
and illegal immigrants. (We have to include the illegal immigrants, it is the only compassionate thing to
do.)

H+ and approaching singularity is often called out as follows:



The truth is that many people will NOT want to participate.  Have you gotten Lasik surgery on your
eyes?  Do you have a heart pacemaker just in case you have a heart attack?  You are probably
healthier than Mitch B., but his survival chances might exceed yours and mine because he has a heart
pacemaker and we don’t.  Such is the irony of having minor problems which cause the healthcare
system to install an autopilot in your chest.  One’s minor problem might just extend one’s life.
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Note: An image related to me in 1967 by my Austrian host in Vienna:
She read about US chicken hatcheries that applied small reddish
hued contact lenses to chickens of a certain age.
The reason: The chickens wouldn't peck at each other with such a
hindrance to their regular vision!
Projection: Were a politically correct self-image need to be applied
and registered for each person, then a complete dictatorship would
be available for control.
Example: Imagine that one's appearance to others was of an ogre.
Then people wouldn't sell you food or otherwise deal with you.
Should such changes be able to be done automatically, then the
change areas may become much larger than before.
Note: re: position of glasses on head ...is immaterial if what other people
see is adjusted according to the avatar of that day's choice.
Q.: Would there be a tax for changeovers during one calendar day?


Check out the upcoming movie The Surrogates with Bruce Willis.  In the movie, people stay at home and
their surrogates go out and party. Check out the trailer: http://surrogates-movie-trailer.blogspot.com/   
Warning, the trailer contains shocking images, namely, it shows Bruce Willis as a blonde.  A very
Shocking image.


Impact upon public companies ...
Q.: Would a firm's assets be more valued for the trade secrets and
the software applications than for the hardware infrastructure
necessary to support them?
Example: PMTC has several functional chimneys of users.
Once established, it would be difficult to pull users away to
another application unless ... significant benefits would be given
to the customer company to warrant the investments.


Parametric Technology like other suppliers will be moving to a verbal interface.  The human “user” will
describe what she wants designed using the English Language and the robot will do the actual detailed
design.  As time goes on, the interface will morph into a ‘discussion’ between a human and the robot.  
Eventually the robots will decide what is needed and the humans can go watch movies and sun
themselves on the beach.  Humans are easily amused with soap operas, ‘reality TV shows’ such as
American Idol.  Just think, they can watch Rod and Patty Blagojevich in Help, I am a Celebrity, Get Me
Out of Here. http://celebrity.itv.com/  That can be followed up by viewing Rod’s trial on TV.  Let the
robots do the work.  Humans have done enough and need to relax for a few decades.  My neighbor has
the right idea.  He owns an insurance agency and has trained his son to run it.  Now that he is 50 years
old, he is concentrating on exercising and keeping himself in shape.  John H. has taken the same path.  


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