Robots Coming Why Can't most People see this fact clearly?
I am sorry, but all of this talk assumes that the world is all about Organic Robots and not at all about
Real Robots.
What you both are saying is that the world in 20 years will be about humans and what social class they
are in.
I am trying to come up with a parallel thought.
Perhaps you can help me with your knowledge of history.
In England, at one point, the transportation system ran on horses and carts. The total output of horse
manure could be projected on a graph showing economic growth to be so over the top that the economy
would find it very difficult to dispose of it all. How would we ever feed the horses represented by modern
car and truck engines. Does your car have an engine which can deliver the power of more than 100
horses? Do you have to house those horses? Feed them hay? Carry away their waste products? Also
consider the incredibly impossible situation of disposing of human waste in the cities of times past.
In the sweltering summer of 1858 the stink of sewage from the polluted Thames was so offensive that it
drove Members of Parliament from the chamber of the House of Commons. Sewage generated by a
population of over two million Londoners was pouring into the river and was being carried to and fro by
the tides. The Times called the crisis "The Great Stink". Parliament had to act - drastic measures were
required to clean the Thames and to improve London's primitive system of sanitation. The great
engineer entrusted by Parliament with this enormous task was Sir Joseph Bazalgette.
Was humanity doomed? No. Were horses about to become obsolete as a means of transportation? Yes.
Don't get me wrong. I love horses. I am glad that I live within two miles of five horse farms. One of them
houses Clydesdales for Budweiser. But I am also aware that we like them for pleasure, not for providing
transportation or any other form of industrial work. Even cowboys now use All Terrain Vehicles (ATVs),
not horses to herd their cattle. Farmers, like my friend Tony K, drive around on ATVs as well. When I
visit Tony, I take my ATV along in the back of my truck. How could I really visit Tony and help him work
his farm if I didn't own and bring with me the modern equivalent of a horse? Actually he had me toss a
bail of hay on the back of my ATV and drive it out to the pasture where his horses were grazing. I fed his
horses using my horse replacement for transportation.
But anyone who concentrated their thinking on such horse excrement would, in retrospect, seen to be
lacking in insight. So it is with Bill Bonner who lacks the insight into who will feed all of these future
humans that he is worried about. Would the parallel be asking how all of those horses would ever carry
the steel beams to build today's modern skyscrapers?
The goal of those who believe in creating a New World Order is to reduce the population of humans on
Earth to less than 500,000,000 by mid-century. We also need to stabilize the system of power so that it
is no longer in the hands of humans heading individual nations and who have crazy notions such as
expecting Armageddon and thinking that it would be a good thing. Such an idea is present in the minds
of leaders in Iran, I have been told. Do you really want to continue things along the lines were we find
them now? Do you want the same Organic Robots who were designed to roam the plains of Africa to be
in charge of detonating Atom Bombs in modern times?
If my leg is broken, should I replace the bone with Organic material or with Carbon Fiber material? At
some point, the answer will be Carbon Fiber.
When will that point come? We now know that it is only a matter of time before we acquire the
information necessary to cause that decision to flip to the better material.
So it is for every cell in every human body.
So, if I can replace my chest and stomach cavity with a machine which takes my blood and "purifies it" by
removing the "broken down proteins" and replacing them with "good proteins", why wouldn't I do that?
One reason to do that is to be able to qualify for being an astronaut that would be sent to live on Mars
where organic food is simply too expensive. With an inorganic "blood rejuvenation system" I could qualify
as a human who can live off of solar power cells on another planet.
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 6:47 AM, Bob Russell <bobqrussell@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hello.
.
History intrudes itself into modern discussions of how
cultures screw up by becoming empires.
Oops! There goes the middle class! ... and the society!
.
Check the consequences for our progeny.
.
Comments welcome for discussion of 'next steps' ...
.
Ref.: [from an October 2011 zine; repeated in late December]
But the poor protestors are just victims of history. When the US embraced its empire it condemned its
middle classes. Why? Because that’s how empires work. They bring in cheap goods — and sometimes
money itself — from outside. Whether they are taken as booty or traded for the imperial currency, the
effect is about the same; they undermine local industries and local wages.
Ancient Rome imported wheat from Egypt, by the boatload, and gave it to citizens (an early form of food
stamps). Result: the price of wheat collapsed. Small farmers couldn’t compete with free wheat. They
couldn’t earn a living.
The Romans also brought in slaves. Rich, politically-connected Romans took over the small farms,
consolidated them into big plantations, and ran them with slave labor. Again, the local labor was out of
luck.
Things got so bad for the small farmers that they sold their children into slavery...and then, themselves.
Then, in alarm, an edict prohibited Roman farmers from selling themselves into slavery. They were
required to remain on their farms...and at work.
Spain ran a very different, short-lived empire in the 16th century. It conquered New World civilizations
and imported gold and silver on a colossal scale. It was as if they were printing money! This easy money
made the Spaniards rich. They used it like America uses her dollars — to buy things from overseas.
Pretty soon, the Spanish neglected their own manufactures and their own farming. Prices rose. Spain’s
nascent middle class was smothered in the crib.
Are things so different now? The rich get rich. The middle classes get poorer; they have to compete with
imperial plunder...riches coming from Asia, bought with dollars that were never earned...and never will
be redeemed.
America’s middle classes were happy to sell their own children into perpetual debt servitude. The kids
face obligations 5 to 15 times as great as annual output. Unless they revolt, they will have to work their
entire lives to pay for their parents’ excesses.
But what will they do when future generations can take no more? They cannot sell themselves into
slavery. They’ve already done so. Most face a lifetime of student debt, mortgage debt, and medical debt
(aka Medicaid and Medicare), already.
What can they do? Join the revolution!
Regards,
Bill Bonner,
for The Daily Reckoning
Next
I am sorry, but all of this talk assumes that the world is all about Organic Robots and not at all about
Real Robots.
What you both are saying is that the world in 20 years will be about humans and what social class they
are in.
I am trying to come up with a parallel thought.
Perhaps you can help me with your knowledge of history.
In England, at one point, the transportation system ran on horses and carts. The total output of horse
manure could be projected on a graph showing economic growth to be so over the top that the economy
would find it very difficult to dispose of it all. How would we ever feed the horses represented by modern
car and truck engines. Does your car have an engine which can deliver the power of more than 100
horses? Do you have to house those horses? Feed them hay? Carry away their waste products? Also
consider the incredibly impossible situation of disposing of human waste in the cities of times past.
In the sweltering summer of 1858 the stink of sewage from the polluted Thames was so offensive that it
drove Members of Parliament from the chamber of the House of Commons. Sewage generated by a
population of over two million Londoners was pouring into the river and was being carried to and fro by
the tides. The Times called the crisis "The Great Stink". Parliament had to act - drastic measures were
required to clean the Thames and to improve London's primitive system of sanitation. The great
engineer entrusted by Parliament with this enormous task was Sir Joseph Bazalgette.
Was humanity doomed? No. Were horses about to become obsolete as a means of transportation? Yes.
Don't get me wrong. I love horses. I am glad that I live within two miles of five horse farms. One of them
houses Clydesdales for Budweiser. But I am also aware that we like them for pleasure, not for providing
transportation or any other form of industrial work. Even cowboys now use All Terrain Vehicles (ATVs),
not horses to herd their cattle. Farmers, like my friend Tony K, drive around on ATVs as well. When I
visit Tony, I take my ATV along in the back of my truck. How could I really visit Tony and help him work
his farm if I didn't own and bring with me the modern equivalent of a horse? Actually he had me toss a
bail of hay on the back of my ATV and drive it out to the pasture where his horses were grazing. I fed his
horses using my horse replacement for transportation.
But anyone who concentrated their thinking on such horse excrement would, in retrospect, seen to be
lacking in insight. So it is with Bill Bonner who lacks the insight into who will feed all of these future
humans that he is worried about. Would the parallel be asking how all of those horses would ever carry
the steel beams to build today's modern skyscrapers?
The goal of those who believe in creating a New World Order is to reduce the population of humans on
Earth to less than 500,000,000 by mid-century. We also need to stabilize the system of power so that it
is no longer in the hands of humans heading individual nations and who have crazy notions such as
expecting Armageddon and thinking that it would be a good thing. Such an idea is present in the minds
of leaders in Iran, I have been told. Do you really want to continue things along the lines were we find
them now? Do you want the same Organic Robots who were designed to roam the plains of Africa to be
in charge of detonating Atom Bombs in modern times?
If my leg is broken, should I replace the bone with Organic material or with Carbon Fiber material? At
some point, the answer will be Carbon Fiber.
When will that point come? We now know that it is only a matter of time before we acquire the
information necessary to cause that decision to flip to the better material.
So it is for every cell in every human body.
So, if I can replace my chest and stomach cavity with a machine which takes my blood and "purifies it" by
removing the "broken down proteins" and replacing them with "good proteins", why wouldn't I do that?
One reason to do that is to be able to qualify for being an astronaut that would be sent to live on Mars
where organic food is simply too expensive. With an inorganic "blood rejuvenation system" I could qualify
as a human who can live off of solar power cells on another planet.
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 6:47 AM, Bob Russell <bobqrussell@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hello.
.
History intrudes itself into modern discussions of how
cultures screw up by becoming empires.
Oops! There goes the middle class! ... and the society!
.
Check the consequences for our progeny.
.
Comments welcome for discussion of 'next steps' ...
.
Ref.: [from an October 2011 zine; repeated in late December]
But the poor protestors are just victims of history. When the US embraced its empire it condemned its
middle classes. Why? Because that’s how empires work. They bring in cheap goods — and sometimes
money itself — from outside. Whether they are taken as booty or traded for the imperial currency, the
effect is about the same; they undermine local industries and local wages.
Ancient Rome imported wheat from Egypt, by the boatload, and gave it to citizens (an early form of food
stamps). Result: the price of wheat collapsed. Small farmers couldn’t compete with free wheat. They
couldn’t earn a living.
The Romans also brought in slaves. Rich, politically-connected Romans took over the small farms,
consolidated them into big plantations, and ran them with slave labor. Again, the local labor was out of
luck.
Things got so bad for the small farmers that they sold their children into slavery...and then, themselves.
Then, in alarm, an edict prohibited Roman farmers from selling themselves into slavery. They were
required to remain on their farms...and at work.
Spain ran a very different, short-lived empire in the 16th century. It conquered New World civilizations
and imported gold and silver on a colossal scale. It was as if they were printing money! This easy money
made the Spaniards rich. They used it like America uses her dollars — to buy things from overseas.
Pretty soon, the Spanish neglected their own manufactures and their own farming. Prices rose. Spain’s
nascent middle class was smothered in the crib.
Are things so different now? The rich get rich. The middle classes get poorer; they have to compete with
imperial plunder...riches coming from Asia, bought with dollars that were never earned...and never will
be redeemed.
America’s middle classes were happy to sell their own children into perpetual debt servitude. The kids
face obligations 5 to 15 times as great as annual output. Unless they revolt, they will have to work their
entire lives to pay for their parents’ excesses.
But what will they do when future generations can take no more? They cannot sell themselves into
slavery. They’ve already done so. Most face a lifetime of student debt, mortgage debt, and medical debt
(aka Medicaid and Medicare), already.
What can they do? Join the revolution!
Regards,
Bill Bonner,
for The Daily Reckoning
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